10%-20% of the 5-shot groups with my hand loads get down to 0.25 MOA. ; wrench is stored in the bolt shroud. Extended trigger-reach AR-style grip and 45 reversible safety selector. Between dies, powder, bullets, and pallets of cheap(ish) NATO ammo, the rifle they buy is going to be a .308. But I still did very well, all things considered. It was a Leupold Gold Ring variable power scopeconsidered a benchnmark for quality, to American shooters. On the other hand, a shot or two in the vicinity of someone on your property will more than likely send them running away. Accuracy was so bad after I bought it I sent it back to Ruger. while the .308 measured 9.886 lbs. Most pleasurable day on the range ever for me. with zero on the paper! Oversized bolt knob. First, the .308 is a more powerful round until well beyond what could be considered an ethical hunting range. It will shoot sub MOA all day long probably around .75 or so. Submitted at 03:40 hours today a,n article that compares the .30-06 to the 6.5 Creedmoor, vindicating the old school. and Smithing. They are virtually identical, but the Creedmoor is a tad faster, and because it is a modern rifle, and sold as a precision rifle, and factory ammunition is tailored for accuracy at long ranges, the rifle will likely be more accurate straight out of the box. Who knows for sure. 15 to 20 reloads for the brass if annealed every 4th time or so. David Tubb, a shootist who is as inhumanly accurate as Jerry Miculek is fast, sells a fire-lapping kit as do others. I have been reading and watching on youtube all the reviews I can find about this rifle in 308 this the first one I have found that has anything negative to say about the accuracy of this rifle ! If youre in the business of learning how to call the wind, .308 is going to make you do your homework, and Id argue that anyone who can shoot a .308 at any meaningful distance is going to be better at shooting a higher performance chambering like 6.5 Creedmoor if ever called to do so. This problem is of course only amplified when you screw a silencer to the end of the barrel. I no longer have any 6.5 Swedes, but an old man can dream. More than likely, it was sold, when we needed some fast cash, after being newly married. It comes A Savage 10TR (may be only a Canadian offereing) These come from the factory with a threaded, heavy barrel in either 20 or 24. So the 24 barrel 6.5mm is more accurate than the 20 barrel .308? But the fact is that nobody in the top 10 of the Precision Rifle Series used a hinged floorplate to feed their rifle, and none of them ran stock bolt knobs, or factory stocks. I clean extensively within the first 50 rounds or so, and subject the barrel to only slow-fire. Every big gun magazine is copying his experiments! If you wish to lap out rough spots in a barrel after it has been cut and chambered, theres really only one way to do it that thats fire-lapping. I run these bullets in a 6.555 M38 at reduced speeds to match the calibration on a turret scope set up for a 7.62 NATO 168 grain trajectory. They are considerably longer than the SMKs more like a Creedmore bullet. It is now and always has been the man behind the trigger that makes them perform in extraordinary ways. Thats a short barrel for shooting off-hand, BTW. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a 5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of Forever U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! It will just cost more to practice with the Creedmore. His survivalist novel Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse, is a modern classic that reached #3 on the New York Times bestsellers list. Then add a Limb Saver, or a sand bag. No matter what I did, it just always seemed to shoot roughly .9 to 1.3 MOA at the 100 yard line. But if youve got an .06, dont loose it, cause youve got more gun. I have 12 x 18 steel plates up at the property out to 800 meters if I move back to a pasture to shoot. Its more suited for what I want to do. Maybe that explains why the 20 .308 will only shot well under 100 yards and the Creedmore with a 24 barrel would stand to reason that it would shoot better and a 26 barrel for a .243? Ive got just under 3,000 rounds through it and am paying close attention to groups for any signs of throat erosion. Its a 2+ MOA rifle. Our mail forwarding address is: James Wesley, Rawles The edges of the lands were sharp enough on the .308 that it would pick up bits of the dry patches I pushed down the bore, a behavior that the 6.5 did not exhibit. Its like buying a safari rifle and faulting it because it has too much recoil to shoot prairie dogs all day. Getting a scope thats able to match your rifles shooting ability is your key to success. Vortex Viper HST 6-24x50mm Riflescope is the best Best Scope for 308 Ruger Precision Rifle, it is not only accurate at extended ranges but also the best recommendation for long-range hunting and tactical operations such as shooting on tree stands and mountain tops. Rugers have never been known for their accuracy, especially their old bolt guns with that cockamamey combination action screw/recoil lug. With in 5 shots I was zeroed ( out of the box ). James Wesley, Rawles (JWR) is Founder and Senior Editor of SurvivalBlog, the original prepping /survival blog for when the Schumer Hits The Fan (SHTF). Not a bad analogy. WebModel Number: 18028 Caliber: 308 Win StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height FinishType III Black Hard-Coat Anodized Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer-Forged, 5R Rifling Thread Pattern5/8"-24 Twist1:10" RH Grooves5 Weight9.8 lb. Thank you! I suggest you buy a Bob-sled from Brownells & fire singles, or stop using olives in your RPR. And truthfully, I really do feel that in the hands of someone looking to optimize its accuracy, it could have done better. Ive owned more than a few bolt-action hunting rifles, in various calibers, that could keep my three round groups right at an inch at 100 yards. 06s are out now. I own both rifles. More importantly, 6.5 long-range rifle is hands down an easier bullet to shoot in the wind. TK, barrel will shoot-in over time, or shoot-out? So yes, remove that stupid brake and put a good flash HIDER in it. That should not be happening. Generally they are accurized, but no more accurate than many modern hunting or target rifles. Id go outside and yell at clouds, but today in Wyoming it is a low overcast, so it would be a pointless diatribe on my part in all directions. I was awarded best marksman in the military shooting the fn-c1 in 7.62 nato, rear peep, front blade. Take it from a Canadian. Its still a dog with fleas and Im only keeping it because I plan on buying an after market barrel and converting it to 6.5CM. Of course, no matter how a rifle is made, if it wont shoot accurately, it is of no use to the man or woman behind the trigger. WebModel Number: 18028 Caliber: 308 Win StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height FinishType III Black Hard-Coat Anodized Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer Its very difficult to convince a detective, a prosecutor, a jury, and a judge, that the man you shot at 680 meters was a direct and immediate threat to you. Because of the barrel twist, I did not try anything lighter. Barrels can be easily replaced by a competent gunsmith using AR-style wrenches and headspace gauges. Well for me I bought the 6.5 creedmoor. Its just not a 1000 yrd. And it is easier on the barrel as it runs at a max pressure of only 45,000psi, instead of 62,000psi for the Creedmoor. WBT offers California & other state compliant rifles from any brand you want. WRT the RPRs rattling safety selector, Ruger now has a free fix for it a spring that takes about a minute to install and solves the problem. I have yet to shoot my SR762. In about 3 months Ill be able to update on how its working out. And this is the rub as it relates to this RPR. POOR service in anyones opinion. The 35% less recoil of the 6.5 Grendel as compared to the 6.5 Creedmoor, or full power 6.555, is about the same or less than in my heavier 6.555 sporterized and glass bedded M38. Adding a good scope, for instance, can increase a rifles effective range. Send it my way Tom. You can read the balance of the specs on the Ruger web site, however, needless to say, the rifle offers a lot of goodies for what it is. BTW, Mr. Tubb shoots better off-hand than most people shoot off a bench, and he has the awards to show for it. That is the thrust of it, and perhaps I should used this paragraph to help wrap up article. Where this lack of weight manifests itself quite clearly is in the recoil department. The weights vary by chambering, but with the lightest model starting at 9.7 lbs. Im hoping these will be decent.. My original goal was to try to use this for 1000 yd. It shoots the same ammo 100-150 fps slower than a Savage model 10 I have with the same length barrel. It is plenty for those ranges, and it will be flatter as a result. WebRuger M77-GS 308 Gunsite Scout Rifle with Threaded Barrel. The truck was a quarter mile walk, so one of us dug a couple of boxes of Czech 7.62 ball (144 gr) ammo out of a pack. If you drop them at several hundred yards away, you may face murder charges at some point, when law and order are restored assuming it ever gets restored. God speed and happy shooting SIr. It certainly wont using Sierra 168 gr. I am not personally familiar with the 308s as far as what they are capable of, but Ive never heard of anyone unable to get them to shoot easily under 1 MOA average with around .5 bests. Have a look over at http://www.rifleshooter.com they have done velocity vs barrel length for 223/556, 308, and 300winmag I believe. Tunnel Rabbit, Ive always wanted a 6.555 Swede because it looked so efficient. If the RPR cant get the same or better, its really not worth it. Please let others know they too can trust SurvivalBlog for the most reliable and practical survival information by voting for SurvivalBlog on topprepperwebsites.com. I will admit, I cant shoot that well all the time. It is sweet, but why bother when .308 covers most of what is needed, and over all is the most common and smartest cartridge to own. Wish me luck. I treated the .308 the same way, but I fed it a lot more variety in ammo, and it just never consistently performed for me. No ammunition is perfect though. When I first got to basic, that rifle did to me what it did to everybody else, at first, and that would be giving every one first shooting it a massive goose-egg on their cheek, we all lived to shoot another day. In retrospect I probably should have gotten the 6.5 Creedmore. I dont hear Ms. Weiss complain about weight or barrel length ever. Why? However, the Black Hills match grade .308 Win ammo thats another story. Every commercial match load Ive tried is sub-MOA. Core-Lokts. Brass in the M38 lasts forever. of Varget powder and 175 SMKs, seat the bullet for a COL right at SAAMI spec. Sub-2 MOA accuracy at 500 yards is still fitting five bullets inside the vital zone of anything on four legs that can feed a family of four, and well within the confines of a 10-inch diameter circle. All mags worked fine. Surprised I didnt get any flyers. My Winchester 52B has a barrel length of 28 inches. We knew this was not going to work at this range with the different velocity and bullet weight, and the notorious 3 MOA accuracy of military ball ammunition. Some gave me groups a little bigger, and some groups ever smaller but not by much. Its not a .30-06 or a Magnum, for one. $1,039.00 $989.99. My answer has always been the same, and I have built several of these for friends and family. Viewed together, the .308 looks like the 6.5s littler brother. We live in a land of plenty. Velocity loss is a problem in long range shooting. I can tune a 175 grain bullet to do just about anything in that gun. WebMedium-contour (.75" at the muzzle) threaded barrel with 5/8"-24 threads. The fact that youre seeing the barrel snag bits of the patch on the way down the bore is not good. A cubicle-dwelling technology sales professional by day, he is an avid starter of projects, purchaser of speciality tools, and aspiring chef outside the office. Survival AR-7 Rifle, Gun Review: Blaser R8 Ultimate Carbon Hunting Rifle, http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/story/1616372-sniper-s-hide-complete-ruger-upgrade-review, Capacity: 10 rounds (20- and 25-round PMags are available in the market), Stock: Folding stock, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height. For semi-automatic rifles, the Armalite AR-10 and DPMS LR-308 are both excellent choices. Naturally, this is all speculative on my part, but I think theres work to be done to turn that particular rifle into a shooter. WebRuger American .308 Winchester 22" Black Vortex Crossfire 3-9x40. They make them for the RPR. On the same scale on the same day, the 6.5 weighed in at 10.824 lbs. I agree with TT and Dyspeptic Gunsmith! The Win 52B/C/D was the target .22 for decades in the US, with some of the heaviest variants running upwards of 12.5 lbs. When you find a variety of ammo that shoots consistently in your bolt-action hunting rifle, then stock-up on it. My 06 works just fine. MAG291-BLK Blindfolded, I could still pick out the difference between the 6.5 and the .308 based purely off heft. Add to Compare. Accu-trigger and Accu-stock. Ive found that with their match loads, Black Hills produces some of the most consistently accurate ammo in the world. Jima and Texas Prepper stole my thunder muzzle brakes SUCK. However it could be that you might already have an Ought Six that is scoped. OMG, agree completely, and couldnt frankly believe such a thing was possible. First of all, this is a bolt-action rifle that is is not designed to be a hunting rifle. ( the new wife was happy I got rid of it ). Its a full four inches shorter than the 6mm Creedmoor version and six shorter than its .243 counterparts.

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