The raw stones are cut and the edges are milled with the highest precision to give the very best results. It may not display this or other websites correctly. RMC German Agate Flint. What is the comparative cost for those German Agates? And, the website is very confusing. RE: English Flints Vs. German Agate Flints. Hi all I am new to the forum and a new owner of 2 flintlock rifles 62cal. Top reviews. Sign up and get exclusive access to promotions, sales events, pre-order sales & more! JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Information Line:1-731-885-0700, Product prices and availability subject to change without notice. #FLINT-ENG-7: About 7/8" width and 1" length flint for early flint locks, including our 1750, Jaeger, Christians Spring, Tulle, Twigg, Jim Chambers' Fowler and early Ketland, Hatfield (aka Missouri River Rifle Co.), Cabela's Blue Ridge, and Pedersoli's Frontier locks all seem to like this 7/8 x 1" flint, too. rifle, because it was the only gun he had with a large enough lock and cock to handle the big flint. The results of his work are that the flints last longer and give a superb ignition. They don't last any longer than a regular knapped flint so your shooting costs go up considerably. , Dixie Gun Works, These flints are cut and milled from selected pieces of agate. These 1/2" pre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best flints available. Whether you can get enough more strikes to justify the higher cost is the problem. The Mayor is Claus Pommer, who took office in 2020. Be the first to know about sales, upcoming events, and happenings at 3Rivers Archery! I could only get about 5 shots before the edge just crumbled off. Search. These quality 5/8" hand-knapped flints are sold by the pair. No true flintsman asks another man for his knappings. These flints are cut and milled from selected pieces of agate. Powered by HeitechSoft, Canada's one-stop shop for the Canadian Shooting Sports. Text, image, video. Little chance of these wrecking a frizzen. C cayugad 50 Cal. Complete your original flintlock musket with an original 18th century knapped flint. 2 pk., ML19175, RMC German Agate Flint, 1/2 in. Get the latest information about new products, special deals, news, top-rated items, promotions and more! He replaced it with a Tom Fuller napped flint and the lock came alive. Joined May 20, 2005 Messages 1,671 . Discharging firearms in poorly ventilated areas, cleaning firearms or handling ammunition may result in exposure to lead and other substances that have been found in the state of California to cause birth defects, reproductive harm, and other serious physical injuries. 1/2 inch fits Traditions, CVA, and similar size locks. For privacy reasons, do not use your full name or email address for nickname. SKU: N/A Category: Ignition Components. They have always been pricey. what type of flint is best? Hand-Knapped English Flints are perfect for black powder enthusiasts. Tried both in a variety of guns . The lower jaw of the cock should cause the edge of the flint, bevel down, to hit the frizzen at a 55-60 Degree angle measured at the point of impact. They don't add to the strength.Amber does keep a find edge, knapps well, and will give you lots of strikes. 2023 Three Rivers Archery Supply, Inc. Three Rivers Archery Supply, Inc. All Rights Reserved. He got 162 strikes out of it before it was just a round lump that he could no longer hold firmly in the jaws of the cock, and had to retire it. A good flintlock should not be fussy. The RMC German Agate Flint was developed to be the best item for anybody looking for an exceptional choice. He is gone but the family continues the business. How many of your rifles have killed deer? Reliability, shots per rock, frizzen wear etc etc. The flints in a. Mr Roller repaired a lock for me and sent it back with a cut German flint in the jaws, that thing sparked like a fire breathing dragon. But most of all it just looked really stupid. i am now using german. Sort by. Out of stock. German Agate Flints Ditch the T7, only real black powder should be used in the bore. it seems to be shaped more uniformed.it also fits my rather small lock on my davide petersoli kentucky rifle better than the rough shaped english type.what type do you use and why?do either have the same life span? The resulting flint actually worked, but the sparks were dull red and not. It's not the flint that sparksIt's the frizzen. Most factory frizzen springs and mainsprings are too strong. That will give long life to your flints, regardless of source. Manufacturers, suppliers and others provide what you see here, and we have not verified it. Cut agate does not knap to an edge. Manufactured using some of the very best accessible materials and engineering, these Muzzleloading Supplies from the product specialists at RMC can last an incredibly long time. Available in 3/4 and 1/2. Please, Copyright 2021 B.A.C.O., All Rights Reserved. Thought about trying the French amber flints, but why bother when the English work so well. Melting lead and casting lead objects will expose you and others in the area to lead, which has been found in the state of California to cause birth defects, other reproductive harm, and cancer. Because of their nature applying pressure to a fairly thin area will cause a small flake to break off leaving a razor sharp edge. They are from the 70's so I don't know who made them. The mainspring is more than adequate if the tension is no more than 10 lbs. Used some cut flints about 30-40 years ago. Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. This product is currently out of stock and unavailable. Site by One Dog Media, Copyright & Disclaimer 1996- They are very hard and throw a hot spark. All it has to do is hold the frizzen closed, even it the gun is held upside down. Skip to the beginning of the images gallery. They are very hard and throw a hot spark. These flints are just like the stones used by our forefathers as they forged a life in the rugged frontier with their trusty black powder rifles and pistols. Hard Cut German Agate Flints Bulk 6 Pack $ 24.60 - $ 24.61 Select options; Milled German Agate Flints Bulk 6 pack $ 30.00 Select options; Musket Flint (Pack of Two) $ 7.87 Add to cart; Musket Flint Bulk 6 Pack $ 17.29 Add to cart; Nipple Wrench for Musket Nipples $ 8.40 Read more; Quality English Flints 4 pk I tried T7 once (and only once) in my .54 Renegade with GM barrel. Swapping locks on Traditions Kentucky from percussion to flint. Real flints are pretty easy to knap (form or sharpen). My t/c renegade hadpoor ignition with pyro rs and, looking back the igntion was delayedwhen it did go off. If these are knapped they will be fine. 2 pk.Pre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best available. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. Our supplier lives in Mayen, Germany. German agate is good too but i just prefer the TF flint because they have sharp edges and you can knapp them a lot easier. Muzzleloading is a great hobby for those interested in American history. Pre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best available. Have adequate ventilation at all times. RMC German Agate Flint 3/4 in. I have seen them for sale for $12.00 for two so don't plan on using any, any time soon. I have heard about some flint is just junk. I find the German agate are much more uniform and over all give more sparks than any English flint I have used . The raw stones are cut and the edges are milled with the highest precision to give the very best results. I procured a set of diamond files and have been dessing and sharpening that flint as needed to keep it sharp, which is much easier than knapping a natural flint. Usually 8 to 10 matches a day in the re=entry. Are these cut or knapped? Sawn or cut flints tend to dull uniformly and so stop sparking after 20 shots or so. Blackhorn Qr Breech Plug Is Specifically Designed For Use With Blackhorn And Other Loose Powder Muzzleloading Propellants. And the French Amber "flints" are also more expensive, regardless of quality. I'm about 99% sure that the amber French flints are not fossilized amber, but are actual chert/flint that is colored like amber. These pre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best flints available. YOu should get at least as many sparks from the agate as you would from an English black flint. Tomahawks & Tomahawk Parts and Accessories, M1826 and M1836 Water's and Johnson Pistol, M1861 Special Musket (Colt,L.G. They are old, and Ive gotten good performance with some but they just look wrong. & Y. and Amoskeag), Remington 1858 New Model, .36 Navy and .44 Army, Colt Walker, 1st Model Dragoon & Whitneyville Hartford, Colt Baby Dragoon, Wells Fargo and Pocket Revolvers, M1859,1863 & 1874 Sharps Rifles and Carbines, Bags, Boxes, Lock Covers & Powder Storage. You are using an out of date browser. But I have a question where is the best place to get really good flint for these 2 rifles? About this item. Flints have been produced by this working method since the 18th century in Germany. I was gifted some cut flints 40+ or - years ago and had real poor results using them. This cut flint held up well for no telling how many shots and always sent out a shower of sparks. RMC has been generating high-quality merchandise for a very long time, and the RMC German Agate Flint is their particular manner of demonstrating how much they are concerned. 660 Vermeer CourtPonderay, ID 83852United States. It was a large musket flint, and he tested it in his .62 cal. All stars. I prefer the hand knapped Tom Fuller English flints. We do have flint in the limestone cliffs that form the great Australian Bight. Only cut flint I've ever used came with a Lyman GPR Flintlock. USD $21.30. Mine all came from Gunter Stifter. Choose an option 1/2" 3/4". Your message has been sent. Please try your request again. I had a little more work done on the lock elsewhere and the cut flint got lost in the shuffle. Now most of the French Amber flints I have purchased are NOT the more clear and superior ones I used a long time ago. Thank you for sharing. One thing I've noticed in dry firings with three different flints (Sawn Agate, Milled German and Knapped English), the English flints are the only ones that produce sparks which "pop" and seperate after hitting the pan. Flints are very hard and throw a hot spark. Please Sure sounds like it. Shooter's Choice Pro Shop is Canada's one-stop shop for all disciplines and aspects of the Canadian Shooting Sports. RMC German Agate Flint, 3/4" USD $21.30. Add to registry. Bob Roller Logged 2 pk., ML19150. But with a hardness of 9 it was a lot of work to cut, and pretty expensive. At least 58 people have died and dozens more are missing in Germany after much of western Europe was inundated by record rainfall that brought . You need a diamond hone or specialized grinding tools to sharpen the edges. Pedersoli Pennsylvanian Dixie Rifle Flintlock. Now 200 years later a cache of original knapped military musket flints found in Nepal and never used by the British East India Company has been discovered and is available for the collector's market. I never used the cut Agate-Flints myself. The impact point must be above the half way point of the height of the frizzen for the frizzen to pop open timely to allow the sparks to fall into the pan. I was just curious as to what the were,,,,,,,,,,, I have used German cut flints for decades. Because the sap contained sugars, it attracted bugs, and you often find little bugs inside the amber. LIMIT OF 2. It worked best with a Stifter flint set sideways so it had four good sharp edges.. Nary a misfire. German Agate Votes: 0 0.0% Black English Votes: 0 0.0% Man Made Votes: 0 0.0% Other Votes: 0 0.0% Total voters 0; L. Loggy Well-Known Member. Saw some at a recent show and went through a whole box to find four or five good ones. Sign up with your email to be notified when this product is back in stock! http://www.octobercountry.com/flints-3-4-german-agate-by-rmc/. 2 pk. Thread starter olskool; Start date Sep 30, 2019; Help Support Muzzleloading Forum: . For privacy reasons, do not use your full name or email address for nickname. I have used cut flints from several sources, including Stifer with no good results from any. Our supplier lives in Mayen, Germany. The improvement in ignition was immediately apparent. The cut,measureable flint goes back centuries to the flintenschneiderei and reflects the German propensity for precise,quality work. Because it is very very resistant to external influences insects trapped do not decay and, in rare instances even retain their original coloring. I am suspecting they cost a lot more than the English Flints. The Thunder Nipples use an 8mm thread that tapers at the end to lock into the Thunder Dome Breech Plug. Joined Mar 9, 2006 Messages 10 Reaction score 0 Mar 30, 2006 #6 pardon you are correct german agates are what i have P paulvallandigham Passed On Joined Jan 9, 2006 Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. Verily, tis true that few stones in some parts of the New Worlde have the desired fineness of Dover flinte, yet in the Ohio countrey and further to the West, near the union of the Greate Waters, a coarse white stone of greate and resolute nature sparkes furiously when striking hardened steele. if you would like to place this item on back order. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=736490 M mmiller5 Flint is hard to find down under, not saying there is not plenty of it about, no local knappers that I know of. I've got a small quantity of the cut agate flints if anyone is interested in buying them in bulk. It was pretty junky flint couldnt get a edge on it and it might ignite 1out 8 or 9 tries and had about 12 pieces all the same. i like the 3/4" Tom Fuller black english flints the best. Unfortunately RMC German Agate Flint is no longer carried by OpticsPlanet.You can also explore other items in the, RMC German Agate Flint, 3/4 in. Priced each. These flints are cut and milled from selected pieces of agate. i like sparks, either dry or wet conditions, i use german agate flints. Union City, TN 38261, Outside of the U.S.:1-731-885-0700 Real knapped flint such as english versus machine cut agate type, Re: Real knapped flint such as english versus machine cut agate type, Quote from: smylee grouch on December 28, 2017, 07:34:04 AM, Quote from: Bob Roller on December 28, 2017, 04:49:57 PM, Quote from: Larry Pletcher on December 30, 2017, 12:36:29 AM, Quote from: little joe on December 30, 2017, 02:16:15 PM, Quote from: Bob Roller on January 01, 2018, 01:54:41 AM, Quote from: jrubin on January 08, 2018, 06:11:37 AM, Traditional Muzzle Loading, Powder, Patch & Ball. I ordered some from them about a month ago and they also had Frenck Blond flints. good? yea the ones I saw on line are cut. Some German friends have even found the language use difficult to translate. Buffalo Arms is closed on the Following Holidays so that our employees can spend time with their families: New Year's Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and The Day After, Christmas Eve (Open until 12:00 p.m.), Christmas Day, New Years Eve Day (Open until 12:00 p.m.). Amber, or Bernstein in German, is indeed fossilized sap/resin from conifer trees. These flints are just like the stones used by our forefathers as they forged a life in the rugged frontier with their trusty black powder rifles and pistols. 2023 Three Rivers Archery Supply, Inc. Three Rivers Archery Supply, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I switched to ffg goex and the reliability increased and the lock time was quicker. I bought a .36 Pedersoli Dixie Cub F/L a while ago, and was using good quality English flints, with mixed results. VFG Super Intensive Revolver & Pistol Cleaning Pellets, VFG Super Intensive Rifle Cleaning Pellets, VFG Super Intensive Shotgun Cleaning Pellets, Kowa 88mm Prominar Spotting Scopes & Accessories, Muzzleloading Short Starters & Pistol Loaders, Muzzleloading Shooting Patches, Flints & Leathers, Muzzleloading Powder Measures, Horn & Pan Chargers, Treso Muzzleloading Bullet Pullers & Patch Worms. Our supplier lives in Mayen, Germany. Priced each. Reply 06-29-2008, 02:31 PM # 3 gleason.chapman Nontypical Buck Join Date: Dec 2005 They claim that the agate lasts longer and produces twice the strikes. $ 12.95 - $ 16.95 RMC GERMAN AGATE FLI This product is currently out of stock and unavailable. $ 24.60 - $ 24.61. Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. Site by One Dog Media, Copyright & Disclaimer 1996- Pre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best available Flints are very hard and throw a hot spark Fits Traditions, CVA and similar sized locks We aim to show you accurate product information. AND contain at least one lower case character Anybody have any experience with agate? Take care, john P pghhinter 32 Cal. North Rhine-Westphalia was established by the British military administration's "Operation Marriage" on 23 August 1946. indifferent? Information Line:1-731-885-0700, Product prices and availability subject to change without notice. Joined Aug 12, 2005 Messages 9,996 Reaction score 47. I am using a sawn agate flint on an original EIC smooth bore pistol. I've never used any German flint, but to be honest never heard of it. Hmmmm. North Rhine-Westphalia, German Nordrhein-Westfalen, Land (state) of western Germany. Had one set up with an early L&R lock. SKU: SRMCFLINT Categories: ACCESSORIES, B-P LOADING ACCESSORIES, RMC, Uncategorized Description Additional information These pre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best flints available. Write a review. Flash Hole & Primer Pocket Uniformers & Acc. Didn't work very good and never bought another. Flints are very hard and throw a hot spark. bad? RMC German Agate Flint 3/4 in. 1/2" (fits Traditions & CVA Locks), 3/4" (fits Lyman & Thompson Center Locks), @1993-2022 Shooter's Choice Pro Shop. This small flake can be made by just applying some firm pressure in a very small zone pushing towards a flat side. The results of his work are that the flints last longer and give a superb ignition. The raw stones are cut and the edges are milled with the highest precision to give the very best results. Currently out of stock. They seemed to have poor spark and I only got about 1/4 the amount of shots per flint. Those German flints Bob talks about might have been green. The frizzen spring can be as light as 2 lbs. Performance and wear vary with the quality of the lock and hardening of the frizzen. It fossilizes well because resin is a fairly stable compound and degrades slowly. Maybe those German ones were soaked in water or heated before they were cut! The Hexhead Replacement Breech Plug Is Only For Pivot-Action And Break-Actions Made In *2009 And Before, These Models Would Include: Optima Optima Pro Wolf Kodiak Kodiak Pro. document.write(theDate.getFullYear()) For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. All reviewers. by RMC. I take this to mean they are hotter. I'd have to count to see how many are left. That IS NOT the case today. A New surprise issue for an old flint shooter. ML19175, RMC German Agate Flint Unavailable & Discontinued Models. How do I get more information about a product? Track of The Wolf offers various flints. Went thru a lot of TC sawn agate as all I could find. They seem generally livelier. The German agates are much harder than the English flints and spark very well. JavaScript is disabled. They are very hard and throw a hot spark. But myself being more a shooter than a hunter I prefer knapped flints or chert ,black English or the white grey or tan American varieties all work about the same for me . [1] To order your 3Rivers Archery catalog, please fill out the catalog order form here and we'll send you our latest catalog FREE. The Germans didn't quibble about price and were glad to find someone that didn't screw them and there is a lot behind that statement that I won't go into.No sense in scratching off old scabs. Sparks really well. agate of several colors, jade, jaspis . German Agate Flints Part No: 33-19150 $10.85 Available Quantity: 8 These precut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best flints available. I have Percussion rifle and 3 pistols that I had since I was 19 so I know some about black powder just not much about flint. Black Powder - English Flints Vs. German Agate Flints - Justin, I don't mean to be redundant with advice, just thought I'd share my personal experiences with T7 in a flintlock and my thoughts on "agate" flints. The state of North Rhine-Westphalia was created in 1946 through the amalgamation of the former . LIMIT OF 2. Only registered users can write reviews. Get 10% Off - Subscribe to Our Email List, RMC German Agate Flint, 3/4 in. 5/8" flints are for the Dixie Tennessee rifle, Parker pistol, Murdock pistol, Maslin, small Siler, an Blount County locks. You are using an out of date browser. 4 out of 5 shots I fired " I received a pack as a gift of what looks like machine cut flint bit it is not white but almost a slate color, I will provide a photo shortly, what do you make of this? Note: If the password you chose includes your first name, last name or email domain those values will be ignored when determining the password length. Last updated on Jan 06, 2020 08:20:33 PST View all revisions Item specifics Condition: They are difficult to knap. Union City, TN 38261, Outside of the U.S.:1-731-885-0700 He paid a lot of money for it. German Agate flint. These Muzzleloading Supplies through the professional product experts at RMC are designed working with long lasting and reliable components, to be able to provide you with product which will be beneficial for countless years. A friend has a Dangler rifle with a W, Cain assembled Siler lock and the Stifer work great. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov. The RMC German Agate Flint was developed to be the best item for anybody looking for an exceptional choice. Currently about $5.00 each. 80% of reviewers recommended this product. Filter by. The password you choose must meet the following requirements: Your password must be at least twelve characters long, Your password must be at least seven characters long These agates may not work well in some other locks, but that stiff little Pedersoli loves them! 1. He bought some more from another place that was really good but he doesnt remember where he got it or kind it was. but I'd wager 90%+ of them couldn't find a piece of flint on the ground in due time let alone shape it into a usable gunflint. It's been said repeatedly in this thread, but shoot real black powder out of the flinter. I have had very good success with these agate flints, still using the first one after dozens of shots in my Dixie Cub. You can depend on these 5/8" sparking stones for a consistent shower of sparks. Flints have been produced by this working method since the 18th century in Germany. The flints look well made but be warned you get 1 flint for the price not the 3 pictured. It should cut steel well, but it will also shatter if those springs are too hard. Fits Thompson Center, Lyman and similar sized locks. [1] Originally, it consisted of Westphalia and the northern parts of the Rhine Province, both formerly part of Prussia. Finally got a rifle w a small Siler and some English flints. OR have friends who have both. Mr Roller reworked a frizzen on one of his locks for me, when I got the lock back it had what I suspect was one of Guenter's cut flints in it, that was one sparking son of a gun. It is bordered by the states of Lower Saxony to the north and northeast, Hessen to the east, and Rhineland-Palatinate to the south and by the countries of Belgium to the southwest and the Netherlands to the west. Here at OpticsPlanet, we ensure that it is our obligation to get the most suitable solution for your needs, and presenting the RMC German Agate Flint is one thing that we're happy to offer. Privacy Policy Terms of Use. All Rights Reserved. These quality 5/8" hand-knapped flints are sold by the pair. Fits Thompson Center, Lyman, and similar sized locks.WhitePre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best available.Flints are very hard and throw a hot spark.Fits Thompson Center, Lyman, and similar sized locks.Manufacturer: RMCModel: ML19175. WOW! The Amber flints were knapped in France at around the same time. Always use black English flints. See all Traditions Firearms See all Muzzleloading products Warning: Cancer and Reproductive Harm www.P65Warnings.ca.gov How to RESHARPEN Your FLINT For Flint and STeel Kullcraven Bushcraft & Survival 25.2K subscribers Subscribe 193 Share 3.8K views 4 years ago WARNING, DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK, INJURY TO FINGERS OR. cayuga In Remembrance. Nice to finally another shooter that likes the German cut flints. It didn't do all that bad, I got maybe 12 or 15 shots off each edge (more then I expected I would), but they are nowhere near in the same class or reliability (IMHO) as good ol' Black English Flints. I Don't Know How To Explain My Pouch Stitching Style..So..Pictures. And, PLEASE do not confuse the cheaper in every way sawn American agate flints with the expensive German ones. 1412 West Reelfoot Avenue Vlad did a lot of messing around with various local stone to see what might work best. Any truth to the advertising? #1 Was looking at the Midway web site and noted that they offer an agate "flint" in addition to the regular flints. In those days the agate flints were only slightly more expensive per flint than the knapped ones. Fits Thompson Center, Lyman, and similar sized locks.WhitePre-cut flints are from Germany and considered one of the best available.Flints are very hard and throw a hot spark.Fits Thompson Center, Lyman, and similar sized locks.Manufacturer . Some time ago, I tried making a 'flint' out of carbaloy. Tomahawks & Tomahawk Parts and Accessories, M1826 and M1836 Water's and Johnson Pistol, M1861 Special Musket (Colt,L.G. The 1/2" flint is for the Pennsylvania style locks, Queen Anne pistol, Dixie Cub rifle, Ashmore lock, small Kentucky style locks, Pete Allen locks, Harpers Ferry locks, Barnett, Numrich and Bedford County locks. They are very hard and throw a hot spark. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. document.write(theDate.getFullYear()) 6 per Pack (Bulk Pack) Add to cart SKU: N/A Category: Ignition Components Description Additional information Available in 1/2 or 3/4 ML19150B, ML19175B There are things that I want to know, things that I need to know, and things that I know.

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