She makes two downward hand gestures and she interrupts him as to signal him to keep it down. Police have dismissed any such allegations. However, I listened to the actual interview on youtube (see here -> the quote starts at 12:00) and she clearly stutters. I didnt know the daughter was a foster child as well, is there a link to information stating that? We expect an honest person to say two officer without the extra word just inserted. William Tyrrell's foster mother is a wealthy professional worth several million She comes from Sydney's north shore and always longed for children She is an enthusiastic tuckshop mum at a. Because at the time of William's disappearance it was visible. We live in a small town in Bishop, California at the base of the mountains. He was last seen at his foster grandmothers home in Kendall, NSW. : she didnt hold him because she took a photo, he jumped off, fell on this head and died). Could he have fallen out of it? In the police interview the foster mother explains that she was taking photos of William on the morning of his disappearance. That`s a good observation you made regarding the photo and the mother referencing minutes till their world had changed. 'We wake up, we relive it. What you say about it sounds intriguing though, so maybe I will check it out.I don't think they dressed William up as a girl, at least I see no signs of that in the videos and photos of him. OT Karlie GuseThe witnesses are an interesting aspect of this case. -- consider taken together is a pause. Yes good point,what was washed in the washing machine? The question is why did the foster mother come up with two cars instead of one? In early September, aleak from a NSW Police source revealed cops had zeroed in on a suspect which prompted William's foster family to issue a scathing statement downplaying the claims. While William's foster-father took a teleconference call from a nearby pharmacy, William, his sister, foster-mother and foster-grandmother enjoyed a relaxing morning at home, the inquest heard on Monday. Do they hold a clue as to what happened to William?In one of my previous comments I suggested that the foster mother may have taken a photo of William in the climbing three and that this may have led to his death (e.g. ?I thought the washing machine was broken and they were waiting on a part?Usually you wouldnt use a machine if you were waiting on a part ,as you wouldnt want to do any more damage to it.Must have been very desperate to use that machine. So every time we go somewhere I have my camera and I just take pictures of what theyre doing, and I thought, ehm, you know, Mums getting old, be really good for William and William and his sister to have, ehm, memories of being at Mums. The evidence (his car) is probably long gone and useless now, but saying that I am not a forensics expert so it would be interesting to get an opinion from one. William Tyrrell's biological father, on the right, attends the inquest. His slightly older sister was the last person to see the boy in the Spider-Man suit one minute they were playing "tigers" on the lawn of their foster grandmother's home in Kendall on the NSW Mid-North Coast, the next he was gone. She places herself at the scene talking with Nanna. William's birth father had seen his son only a month before the boy vanished on September 12, 2014. You said Previously she mentioned that [missing pronoun] got in our cars and just started driving all around.Yes I agree there is a lack of commitment with the missing pronoun but also if you have followed the current William Tyrell case there is a similar language used. As we know liars avoid direct lies. So thats, yeah, thats my last sound my last sound memory of him is wraah and then its nothing. (around 1:30 in the video):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALVhn0hElYAutumn. But also it could represent that other things were done. One example below -And, being a mother, I wasn't going to take her to the hospital. On (top of) his head? I didn't think so -> it's the foster mother who feels guilty/responsible.Autumn. Detectives from Strike Force Rosann received information relating to the suspected assault of a child, who is not William, at a home in Sydneys Upper North Shore. Her kind of pushing the child to climb a tree.The mothers I have known and seen rather don't see their 3 year olds climb in anything, let alone a tree. "They went as far as to make serious threats against our lives and one person was imprisoned for such threats.". I realize that when a person says left in regards to leaving a location, it is flagged for sensitivity. Is that why Melissa repeatedly says blast? "Nothing" includes "thing". September 13 - Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest. The last reference she made where she stated that I dont want her story to die. That is bothersome. We are left with no information at all in her words; essentially she tells us something but gives us nothing. Seventy-four per cent of children who are abducted and murdered by strangers are killed within three hours of being abducted, the court heard. From a reportage by Nine News Australia about day two of the inquest into Williams disappearance (apparently the foster mum told one of the neighbors that William had hit his head): () today it was the foster mothers turn to relive the search for the three-year-old. The birth mother did though. So he's been missing since about 10:30?Foster Mother: Yeah I'd say so.If we look at the Police media interview: http://williamtyrrelldisappearance.blogspot.com/2015/10/in-their-words-william-tyrrells-parents.htmlWe see the parents asked the following question.P: When did you guys last see him?M: That morning, on the 12th at Mums place.D: About [10.15am].The father was meant to have been at a meeting and arrived home to find William gone but we see in his answer he places he last sighting of William at 10:15. Good link David. And so, if you needed to know all that great. Why? : TV is broken); or (3) expected behavior of a person is absent (e.g. That may have been an important reason for cover up. and she said 'Why would he be here?" Five is not five minutes. Her last words to William were "Do you see Daddy's car? Isn't she supposed to speak from memory? Then shaving it off? This means she distances herself from her words by generalising it instead of making personal commitment to it. When asked if she knows where he may have gone, she starts to report (again in halting, broken sentences) where they live instead. When we got home, she was still paranoid, almost, like, extremely stoned and, um, we got home and then I had her eat. It would be interesting to note where and when it ("just") crops up in her statements and if the same topics elicit the use of "just", or is it "just" random? Autumn. Also why does she say We know nothing about it instead of We know nothing -> what is it (to me it seems to imply that they know something)?Autumn, Below is a transcript of part of the 60 minutes interview with the foster parents (see here as from 6:44):Foster mother: We wake up, ehm, we hear giggling and laughter and me telling everybody to be quiet and not wake up Nanna cause Nanna was still asleep.Voice over: On that morning William dresses in his favorite Spiderman outfit. He developed a drug habit and has been in and out of jail. The foster mother, 56, and foster father, 54, were charged in November 2021 in relation to the alleged assault of a child at a home on Sydney's north shore. The foster family feared that the knowledge William was fostered would lead to their unmasking. In the original video she does show some genuine emotions and remorse and I think she would have broken down and told everything to get the heavy burden off her. She gives the reason for her statement and we see it is [because] obviously the trolls are roaming. Just just happened, just arrived etc.. - Here it is used to mean recently"Just I just touched it and it broke - Here it is used to minimise actions, thats all I did I only touched itJust this one is just 100 It is being compared to something which costs moreJust - This is just what I mean - Exactly or preciselyJust - The weather is just glorious - Actually; really; positivelyJust - The arrow just missed the mark - By a narrow margin; barely"Thanks Adrian just ;-) what I neededI've been confused on this word for I didn't seem to understand Peter's explanation of comparison vs other contex when "just" is used.You gave me some other inside of this word, which make sense. Adrian, I would expect to see at least some guilt from the foster parents regardless of what happened to William. By not answering, she shows sensitivity to that question as well. When someone tells you they know nothing it is their way of saying don`t ask me because I cant help you.An example would be if your car was stolen. Mamamia contacted the group, but they were unable to respond in time for publishing. Why? Something like: "I didn't see/hear him anywhere" or "I didn't see/hear William anymore". In this context the following statement of the foster mother is also interesting: Well, when I realised that William was missing, I just, I think back to that moment where I just went, I cant hear him, why, why cant I hear him, and I walked around, seriously it was just 2, 3 metres away from where we were sitting, and Ive just walked out, and I just see nothing. How old was the playmate? Those trolls some of whom have gone as far to travel to Taree for two of the hearings were sitting in Lidcombe Coroner's Court on Thursday. In responding to the case, The Department of Family and Community Services told Mamamia it "was deeply saddened to hear about the disappearance of the child in 2014". His head had been shaved. I noticed in Williams case that the mother said she raced around and the father said started looking around. 'He's never opened up about that Look what they've done to me, look what they've done to my son,' his mother said. I had a quick read through just to get an idea of what happened and Melissa uses a lot of deceptive and unexpected language. There is no suggestion that any of William's foster family or his biological family had anything to do with his disappearance. "High-pitched" is exactly how the foster mother (at the inquest) described the sound she thought she heard: a quick, high pitched and sharp scream. Maybe in their attempts to push the abduction-scenario they subconsciously steered us in the direction of what really happened. That on returning home the Father accidentally ran over William with his car. Daily Mail Australia understands the Mazda hatchback was allegedly driven by his foster mother on September 12, 2014 - the morning the three-year-old disappeared. I usually dont become emotional when seeing people cry due to numbness from PTSD, but I literally felt her painso incredibly sadshe is gutted by the loss of William. "Some of the people behind these deeply personal attacks have sat in the gallery of this very courtroom," the foster mother said. "I hope this speech makes you solve the case," she said. I want to put this on blast because I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person. It's very interesting. John, I wondered about something like that too (falling from a tree, I mean), especially since:1. The question is did the mind get released with the body? And I immediately got up and I looked around the house and I'm just going, where is she? So if I know nothing why would I tell someone that I know nothing? Adrian, the stories were for information purposes only -> I don't find them believable (I had already scanned through them a few days ago). Thank you for your kindness. If you watch the video you will see this clearly. "and she's just there, she was just hanging out. They just didnt belong to some clairvoyant child abductors i.m.o.. Their parents do. William's biological parents had been seeing him every month, but as he became a long term placement that access was reduced to bimonthly. William Tyrrrell's grandmother.Credit: Nick Moir. Looking at either the first or second use of the word we end up with the same outcome which is deceptive language.A clever criminal may commit a crime and then drive round in order to be witnessed by others so as to appear they were looking/searching for a missing person. How did I try to shut someone down? She may be withholding something more incriminating, including known associations. Deception IndicatedAdrian, I have wondered the same thing. This places at least four people on the porch instead of the three which have been given in the original story. The mind wants to solve and rationalise things which is great, but the flip side is that it will try to make sense of the garbage we are told by criminals and Politicians (interchangeable words I know). The foster grandmother is conspicuous by her absence in interviews - as I recall, she also did not attend the inquest. television rather than watching the child, and the child is abducted, the mother may show signals of guilt that is not due to the abduction. Moments before William Tyrrell's disappearance described by fatherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8Gfsc2OMITranscript of first 20 seconds of recording.I then said to (beeped out to hide identity) well where is he, where, where, wheres he gone? The comments below have been moderated in advance. "No other family member should ever feel the need to fight tooth and nail in order to maintain commitment to find out what happened," she said. As if shes making an appointment with the doctor. William Tyrrell's 10-year-old sister has made an emotional promise to find her sibling, telling an inquest into his disappearance she wants to become a detective and solve the case. Strike Force Rosann continues to investigate William Tyrrell's suspected abduction, with a team of five full-time investigators. He brings the subject of crossing the street into his language and there is a lot of sensitivity there. Its a bit of a tongue twister say as well. OT - Karlie Guse Hi Leigh, Three things stick out to me from a first reading. To say you have to do something is different from actually doing it. She alludes to this early in her statement when she says I wasn't going to take her to the hospital. At least, I have never seen him broadcast about missing persons, but maybe he publishes these sort of messages on social media? - very sensitive to him.Adrian. Dressing him as a girl? 'You don't make choices about who you love and who you don't love. !Honestly, don't you think the police have covered every bit of this. If the car could be traced would could there still be evidence found on and in it?Adrian. They are interesting stories but the language of the mother and father points to them being responsible. I think she may subconsciously do so to announce important leaks of what happened, see the bold text in the following statements:I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert. I want to put this on blast because I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person.At the same time, blast might be a detail in itself -> What if she fell and hit her head?The stepmother repeatedly says with regard to Karlies possible location: out in the desert. Did he have lice? The foster family continues to share a close bond with former detective Gary Jubelin who lead the investigation for four years before he was convicted for illegally recording four conversations with former suspect Paul Savage. Of course it may be through sentiment on her part but we must consider it could have other connotations connected to it. Autumn, I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person.This statement implies the stepmother doesn't consider Karlie a missing person.Autumn. I just watched the interview with the father.He says "He was wearing bright clothes. If it raises the chance of getting/finding your child back, who cares what is needed? : William doesn't move or speak anymore). It is the same as saying I kid you not. We talked the whole way home. But there was always something missing - a child and family of her own. The car makes a u-turn. She uses the word lie rather than truth. They drain his septic tank. June 14 - William's grandmother scolds police who have failed to find the young boy after four years, and claims their latest search is 'just for show'. We spent the night. Karlies disappearance is not a mere story. In that case you would walk around (as the foster mother repeatedly says) the car and wonder where he had gone.Adrian, if it was indeed a car accident youre the one who nailed it by drawing attention to screaming halt, the foster father mentioning getting out of the car and William not even crossing the street by himself, etc. OT: Karlie GuseIm on here to share more info. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmother's home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. (I know I should have guessed by the title) But the first couple of minutes of the film contain some of the 911 call and then it cuts to the mother (only shows her mouth area to keep her anonymous) talking. And then nothing. Was William roaring with pain (and then nothing)? 'Imagine waking up to an unsubstantiated article published by a large media outlet claiming a 'senior officer' within NSW Police shared that they have a NEW person of interest, whilst inferring that this heinous crime is on the brink of being solved,' they said in a statement shared to their 'Where's William' website. CASEY ANTHONY: She`s not far. All of the reading things into every word and posting suppositions muddies the water. Her narrative does not move forward chronologically, so that leads me to believe that she is not working from experiential memory. Some recent posts (by advanced analysts? Parents feel guilty if a child has a small tumble because they think they should have been there to catch them. William's sister, who cannot be named for legal reasons, recorded a message which was played at the end of a 19-month inquest into the three-year-old's suspected abduction. She is clearly trying to correct him i.m.o. I never believed the kidnapper-scenario. Regardless we must note that the operators question is not answered with a direct yes or no. She adds the extra word which isnt needed to make sure we know it was the whole night. No parent would make that mistake verbally and become "confused" about whether their son is female or not. "Melissa is asking herself (and her audience) , how do I make this narrative plausible? : I went out, down through all these ferns, hes not there. Police returned to the house from which William disappeared to search vegetation (above), a conc rete slab and a water tank onthe property. It's amazing. Did you see that? I mean lets say we believe their story. She may very well still have been taking pictures of William (at another location) when he disappeared. Bleeding?? She expands on it later in the call we heard him, around the garden and then, I thought oh I havent heard him. ).The stepmother then goes on to say: And, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert.Others already commented on this. Why this need for explanation? On the morning of September 12, his foster grandmother told police, William was 'full of beans, jumping out of his skin with energy'. Also: why does she immediately say she took three photos? The second reason she gives for abduction is it happens which I dont think we can class as reason, a lot of things happen right? There are no well shafts in that forest here in Australia. I want you to do something for me so I am going to say nice things about you and try to build rapport with you.

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